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Will add even more depth to my version of YOUR song on Claude, “A Fugitive on Every Corner” that I stole from you. Dallas, 54, gained notoriety as both a callous criminal and a modern-day mountain man at odds with the government. Thanks, Robert B. A Colorado DNR officer saw Idaho plates on my vehicle and asked questions for several minutes to make sure I was not Dallas. or head on over to listen: Copyright © 2021 FRONTIER PARTISANS, Jim Cornelius. He’s kept a very, very low profile. To me it represents one of the last wild frontiers with it’s jagged canyons, flat table lands of full blown American Desert, roaming herds of wild mustangs, the piercing screech of the red tailed hawk. Can you please provide a link to the “Claude Dallas forum” you mentioned above ? Is there another public forum for this particular subject? I have criss-crossed “the Mountain” from the time-stood-still hamlet of Paradise Valley to the crumbling ruins of the Wickahoney Stage stop, from Jordan Valley to the abandoned and treacherous mine shafts of the Tuscarora’s, camped out by the hole-in-the-ground cabin at Devil’s Corral, rooted around Rattlesnake Springs, narrowly avoided serious confrontations with growers of illegal marihuana plots, shot the breeze and chewed the cud with ranchers and cowboys, lumbered through the Bloody Run Hills, pressed my nose at the windows of the now shuttered roadside bar of George Nielsen in Paradise Hill, searching for that coyote den off of Sand Pass Road, admired the carpet of wild flowers on the Santa Rosa mountains, squeezing through obscure canyon mazes where the water hides from the sun, making my four wheel drive think it had become a mountain goat, sucking in the potent sagebrush scent between Greeley’s Crossing and the torturous descent to Crutcher’s Crossing, pissed into the river at Three Forks, rested up at the isolated Star Valley Ranch, and last, but not least, dropped more than one quarter into the slots of blip-on-the-road McDermitt. When he was young, his family moved from the Shenandoah Valley to Michigan and Claude Dallas spent most of his childhood in Luce County, later moving to rural Morrow County, Ohio, where he learned to trap and hunt game. NOTE: this allows the FP website to set a cookie to display a message that "your comment is awaiting moderation." . My uncle was a poacher to, only thing was he poached to feed his family, not make a profit. They are basically a truck with a topper, very roomy inside. They hid the corpse in a coyote den and Dallas went on the run. Thx Karen. You and “Grant Miller” seem to have one in the same story. What happened to him? Claude Dallas ... Song: Claude Dallas Sung by: Ian Tyson CD: Cowboyography Written by: Ian Tyson/Tom Russell Transcribed by: M. Lawrence Capo 2nd Fret Intro: Am G Dm F 1.ITrapping cats and coyotes Living hand and mouth Aye Aye Aye 4. He served 22 years of a 30-year sentence. Eventually he drifted into trapping, reaching even further back into the history of the West to touch the lifeways of the mountain man. JimP Veteran member. ?Bout the fugitiv [Dm] e Claude Dallas Who just broke out of jai [Am] l You might think this tale is history From before the West was won [ G ] But the events [ Dm ] that I?ll describe took place in 1981 [ Am ] Pogue and Dallas faced off. And Dave hated that Ian Tyson song. Here I am again, ‘spose to be doin’ updates to your website, happily ensnared by your stories…. Jarbidge has a colorful past with a history of going against the grain. This miller also challenged the pogue daughter to question the fbi about children’s clothes being found in the blazer when it was confiscated. Calude Dallas' remote trapping location in southwest Idaho called Bull Camp. by TYRVR » Sun May 23, 2004 8:00 am, Post Then Dallas went into his tent, retrieved his .22 lever action rifle and delivered a kill shot to the head of each lawman. Beautifully written and describes the mood and beauty of our country out here. We didn’t learn of their identities until the shootings. This is WAY off topic but my curiosity is killing me, and I thought I would attempt to pick a brain or two. The REAL difference between a hero and a murder, terrorist and freedom fighter is the morality of their conduct and cause. » Sun May 23, 2004 12:35 pm, Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited. Also first I’ve heard of a prior encounter between Dallas and Pogue. He went on the lam again for almost a year. I enjoy watching a lot of youtube videos and often see some people in the middle of nowhere all by themselves. I think it’s plausible — certainly in character to keep the kid out of the story. Just kept to himself. The Curio and Relic Firearms Forum. BOISE, Idaho (AP) -- Idaho's most infamous outlaw, Claude Dallas, was released from prison Sunday morning after serving 22 years for the execution-style slayings of two state officers in 1981. Posted By: Barkoff Re: Claud Dallas - 04/26/14. This case has fascinated me since I was in high school. Hello JPogue nice to talk with you, so to speak. As an urban luxury destination, Thompson Dallas features stunning skyline views of downtown Dallas. Jim also was a former police officer from the same town as Pogue. Hopefully this will be over soon for you. Google has many special features to help you find exactly what you're looking for. His life was not in danger at Bull Camp, though he may have convinced himself it was. Dallas was slightly wounded in attempting to escape and was apprehended. Wish him the best. Yep, sounds like a good ole boy to me. You wouldn’t happen to be Claude Dallas would you? Don't think it's necessarily distain for authority but more of a distrust of authority. JimP Veteran member. He will get what he deserves soon enough. And yes I am from Paradise Valley, born an raised, till we sold the ranch in 1991. Claude Dallas - [link]http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20050206/ap_on_re_us/idaho_outlaw[/link] Claude Dallas was poaching, setting illegal traps and in possession of illegal animals. I too was raised with wild stories an actual events of handshakes an dinners at our ranch. Many times I have hiked the faint trail leading down to Bull Camp, rested between the roofless stone cabins, fixed my gaze on the gently sloping riverbank and in my mind’s eye imagined the tragic events playing out on that chilly January day almost forty years ago….. 3 cases here in Idaho that bring on distrust, 1 a small one about a moose road kill near Sandpoint Id. I grew up in this same back country, in the same culture that Claude lived in, in that time period, and have some personal knowledge of the people involved. Claudes only thing at the time was Nevada was open to bobcats and Idaho wasn't and Claude was living in Idaho with unsealed bobcats and killing deer out of season. Dallas, 55, was moved from a Kansas prison to the Idaho Correctional Institution in Orofino on Jan. 15, McBain said. Thirty years ago this week, a trapper named Claude Dallas gunned down two Idaho Department of Fish and Game wardens trying to arrest him for poaching in … Even if policemen will shoot the will not kill kim only injure him, because he knew that they want him alive. That mightily pissed off the law enforcement community — and does to this day. Aye, aye, aye. Financial issues and other things drove him over the edge I guess, I can find no other explanation. It has lots of information and comments on the case. I was going to try to be as discreet as possible about this comment because i do believe Claude himself or a close friend is monitoring this and possibly the other websites, only you would know this for sure. Canadian country and western singer Ian Tyson did a song about Claude Dallas that painted him as a misunderstood anachronistic folk hero. Always intrigued myself and others as to why so quiet. —————————-. Originally Posted by Steelhead. It’s time to have Him over for some high country camping…Sage brush is cool with me…. I was at the range the other day shooting my Shiloh with another Shiloh shooter from up north. Yes, I think the above said Grant Miller is the same. by TYRVR » Sun May 23, 2004 12:31 pm, Post Dallas claimed to be in fear for his life, but I think that’s bullshit. Claude Dallas. Claude knew Pogue was a former police chief and that wasn’t just brought up that faithful day in small talk. I would love to visit the site, I also know that it is big country. Song: Claude Dallas Sung by: Ian Tyson CD: Cowboyography Written by: Ian Tyson/Tom Russell Transcribed by: M. Lawrence Capo 2nd Fret [Intro] Am G Dm F Am G 1. Post by Bill C. » Sun May 23, 2004 2:48 am, Post In January 1981, two Idaho game wardens, Bill Pogue and Conley Elms came into the camp to check out his activities. Yes, Claude Dallas is based on a true story. Did those guys play cowboy? That’s pretty much Dallas’ reputation with everybody I’ve talked to that has met him. He started telling me about this man Claude Dallas who was some sort of a mountain man with an antique Winchester who murdered a couple of game wardens about 20 years in Idaho or Montana, was convicted and imprisoned, and then escaped from prison and was supposedly never heard from again. Thanks, Robert B. It’s not really a forum, but comments are still active and welcome. Somehow, Pogue and Elms had missed that. Claude Dallas, convicted murderer of two game wardens, passed through there and reportedly got help from the locals back in the 80's. I can't imagine that hassle. Maybe that’s where the sense of threat came in. He was when I speak of execution for poachers I am thinking about the claude dallas type scumbags that are out there . I believe Claude and Jim kept this secret to save the boy any trouble or anguish. Dallas came west from Ohio in the 1970s to become a buckaroo. Dallas was turned in by a father/son trappers. Be real …. Locally, Claude was a folk hero. Hey, maybe Kirk will link the site up to the beheading video! Bonnie (local snoop and avid hiker) said Claude was camping in the Steen range at that time. I was fascinated with the story, because I could so strongly relate to the nostalgia for a time we never saw. Claude Dallas was playing Mt Man. Pogue may have been one of those cops you can’t reason with, but he wasn’t going to shoot a man over a game violation. He was going to take Dallas to jail, which was probably more than was reasonable under the circumstances. BOISE, Idaho - Claude Dallas, a self-styled mountain man who shot and killed two Idaho Fish and Game officers in 1981, will be released from prison next month, Idaho Department of Correction spokeswoman Tracy McBain said. Label: Sonet - RUSS 2 • Format: Vinyl 7 Tom Russell - Claude Dallas (1991, Vinyl) | Discogs You have to ask yourself, though, why any one would go all the way out there to cite him for a game violation? By the Devil's wash and coyote hole in the wild Owyhee Range Somewhere in the sage tonight the wind calls out his name. Here is the Wiki page on this lovely man: en.wikipedia.org I could go on and on, but let me just end with this note. "Claude Dallas should at least do life." The courts disagree. Located within The National, Thompson Dallas is a luxury downtown hotel with 219 rooms and 52 suites. Is this site for Claude Dallas decusions and is this forum still active ? Ride in the rear of Stevens Blazer with Pogue’s body for 6 hours ? Maybe he did put his hand on the butt — it’s something a cop would do under the circumstances. At The Forum at Park Lane, you’ll find beautifully appointed independent living and assisted living apartments with services tailored to what you need most.Looking for skilled nursing care, a short-term stay, seasonal accommodations, or a year-round home? It depends on whether you win or lose, stay free or hang. … Dallas and Pogue were ill-met. “I’ve wondered why you chose to take the screen name of ‘Lee Logue” when it is SO close to Bill’s widow’s name “Dee Pogue ” ??? @judsoncarroll4 Its not a movie I remember seeing. Any non-argumentative responses would be appreciated. But it makes for a hell of a song…, Thanks for the backstory, Jim. Whatever Happened To Claude Dallas. When the trial began, Dallas was looking at the death penalty, and (any) witness who could’ve shed light on the circumstances, especially if the testimony would have been in Dallas’s favor, there is no way in Hell the defense wouldn’t have had this “witness” testify , even if it was a child . I don't trust humans under badge or cloak or authority. and the western edge of the Alvord Desert in S.E. He really never had a chance. He's "topping out," said Kempf, his sentence completed. He's "topping out," said Kempf, his sentence completed. BOISE – One of Idaho's most infamous outlaws, Claude Dallas, was released from prison Sunday morning after serving 22 years for the execution-style slayings of two state officers in 1981. They sorta bought the idea that Dallas was defending himself against an overly-aggressive Pogue. Maybe sometimes too much of a hardass. “Nobody has the right to come into my camp and violate my rights,” Dallas told Stevens. Reactions: mosquito. In the eyes of the law, Dallas' debt to society has been paid in full. My dad has passed on 8 years ago. Could the third person have rode the mules back to civilization? No words of mine can hope to convey to you the ringing joy and hope embodied in that spontaneous yell: “The Americans are coming; at last they are coming!”. Claude Dallas was the first to use lethal armed resistance against agents carrying guns. Are you just taking another swipe at the Pogue family, or do you consider yourself a comedian ?” When all is said and done, one man's hero is another man's bum; one man's Freedom Fighter is another's terrorist. My interest was renewed by an Ian Tyson song: Claude Dallas on his Cowboyography CD. I’ve been trying to find out what Claude did with my dads wedding ring and watch for 37 years now. » Sun May 23, 2004 8:30 am, Post Does anyone here have any information on where Dallas is now or if he is still alive? 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